Extra Voice Sets for Download by MaVe

[Airbus330-200]

No just use Pro-ATC at my client- installed
Voices at client.
And works

Christian Sass

[polymerman]

Hi Marcel,

Thank you for the work you are doing with the voice sets.  I've read that you've got plenty of US Voice sets.  I still would like to record mine with my New Yawk City accent.    (Shouldn't be too bad if I don't have to record asking a flight attendant for coffee)

If I decide to make the effort, does that mean I will have to wait a very long time to hear the (cringe) sound of my own voice as pilot?

Also, I'm somewhat proficient with sound processing tools.  Are you looking to volunteers to get the tools you're utilizing and assist you in getting the processing the recordings?  I may be willing and able to offer some assistance.

Thanks,
Neal

Hello Neal, 

Marcel doesn't get on the forum that often so you might want to send him a PM with you queries.

Be forewarned that he may not respond to that method too.

[nabrams62]

Marcel doesn't get on the forum that often so you might want to send him a PM with you queries.

Be forewarned that he may not respond to that method too.

Thanks Rich.

Neal

[vadriver]

Also, I'm somewhat proficient with sound processing tools.

neal

given your above, have you had any thoughts on how "most users" could make a set .... all be it less "professional" than both PATC / Mave sets but still worthy.

I have always wondered if the effort by both above is needed, given I have "written" TTS voices for the necessary files which sound "good enough" ... robotic perhaps, but that depends on the quality of the voice in the first instance.

When one considers the "needed files" in a voiceset, more than 50% are airlines & sectors ..... it's those alphanumerics which all strive to blend / flow that needs the time to "process" to what gain ??

Any thoughts ?

[nabrams62]

given your above, have you had any thoughts on how "most users" could make a set .... all be it less "professional" than both PATC / Mave sets but still worthy.

I have always wondered if the effort by both above is needed, given I have "written" TTS voices for the necessary files which sound "good enough" ... robotic perhaps, but that depends on the quality of the voice in the first instance.

Hi John,

Haven't really thought about it that way, no.  As far as sound quality, there are free tools available to batch process the audio files to sound "professional", so why not use them?  Of course, a voice set of your own voice can be clean since it doesn't have to sound like it's coming from the radio.  I believe Marcel provided that service to folks who provided a set of recordings.

When one considers the "needed files" in a voiceset, more than 50% are airlines & sectors ..... it's those alphanumerics which all strive to blend / flow that needs the time to "process" to what gain ??

True. I guess the way I personally look at it, is anything worth doing, is worth doing well.  And, since ProATC developers have created a good foundation, I would prefer to continue to build on that (like Marcel has done) rather than settle for robotic.  But again, that's just me.

Admittedly, I say all that having no idea how much additional processing effort is needed to make the voice recordings sound like non-robotic ATC communications.  But I would love to find out and perhaps lend a hand to the effort.

Neal

[greycap]

given your above, have you had any thoughts on how "most users" could make a set .... all be it less "professional" than both PATC / Mave sets but still worthy.

At the beginning, ProATC-X itself provided a voice recorder tool with which you could record your own voice set.  By the time I purchased ProATC,  it wasn't perfect and as an amateur unfamiliar with some of the more subtle points of ATC, one of the most noticeable faults with it was limited number of call signs and errors amongst those that were included (e.g. "Lingus" for Aer Lingus and not "Shamrock" as it should be).  As the ProATC-X vocabulary developed further and further, this recorder became obsolete and fell into disuse.

Mave then produced his own voice recorder more aligned to the newer ProATC vocabulary and with a larger and corrected set of call signs.  It also increased the variety of voices available and mine is one of them. I would say it took me a 2 or 3 hours to record it which was time well spent to be able to hear my own voice in the cockpit.  I think it then took Mave several hours and maybe more to convert the raw data into a voice set.  The Mave recorder included all the ATC phrases but did NOT include the phrases for the internal aircraft checklists.  That doesn't bother me as I use FS2Crew.

The latest versions of ProATC have changed the vocabulary again and although the Mave sets still work, there are now gaps between the newly updated ProATC vocabulary and the Mave sets e.g. the phrase that asks to initiate descent seems to be missing or misaligned.

My opinion is that ProATC now works well on the technical front, at least for an amateur flyer like me. Indeed it has done for along time.  Rather than endless chasing of technical perfection (and the users have a lot to answer for by criticising minor details), I'd like to see the vocabulary finalised and a new definitive recorder produced, either by ProATC or Mave or anyone else.

As to robotic voices, no thanks.  When the recorder is working it's not an impossible task to record your own voices.  The benefits to you as an individual will be great and the rest of us also gain through added variety.

Voice actors cost money, so we won't get many of them so there won't be variety, none of them will be our own and the product will cost more.  So NO THANKS in capitals to that one!   I think the use of real voices is one of the big selling points of ProATC over some rival products.

[vadriver]

where did you write that neal ........?

[nabrams62]

Mike, thanks for your great comments, but that was actually John's question.

where did you write that neal ........?

I was wondering why I heard your voice when I read that "quote from nabrams62". 

[vadriver]

............ have you had any thoughts on how "most users" could make a set .... all be it less "professional" than both PATC / Mave sets but still worthy.

I have always wondered if the effort by both above is needed .........

When one considers the "needed files" in a voiceset, more than 50% are airlines & sectors ..... it's those alphanumerics which all strive to blend / flow that needs the time to "process" to what gain ??

Mike

It was me asking.

Whilst I substantially agree with you (though I don't use my own voice in any role much to Marcel's surprise ..... just not "real" given I need a PNF / co-pilot & as PF I'm not sitting elsewhere), I am more of the opinion that there will never be more PATC / Mave voicesets because they are too time-consuming to record & then more so for someone else to "edit" to produce.

So my thoughts are why not a less professional approach still using recorded real user voices (using a revised PATC recorder) that needs little to no editing  .... one simply recorders the required end product phrases, not phrases that require editing / splitting / renaming etc. (and why is it so important for 62 alpha/phonetic/numeric sounds to be recorded then edited into fadein / midphrase / fadeout sounds).

I believe it will work because I have done trials with my own voice (and TTS voices) .... I can't hear any noticeable difference from yours as controller / AI crew apart from accent (and lack of tonal variance with TTS).

Limiting the number of airlines / sectors recorded on a regional basis (given recent PATC features) is also worth a thought from my perspective (how many users fly the world / i'm sure my pronunciation of some European sectors is a bit off).

PS & thanks to Thomas for the edit.

[polymerman]

John,

Just noticed your a HERO!
Congratulations!

Does the cape fit? 

If so, don't let it block your view whilst flying!

[vadriver]

Does the cape fit? 

rich, enough thank you.

I have always worn a cap(e) whilst simming ...... to fix my trackIR clip to !

[I-DAMG]

Hello evrybody,
vorrei scaricare le voci presenti sul sito http://mavecreations.weebly.com/voices-for-proatcx.html but when I open the link to the dropbox, it tells me "compression in progress" and never starts the download. How can I do?

[vadriver]

translate & i'll help... otherwise some others will need to.

[zacke]

Hey guys,

after copying MaVe's voices to PATC folder the new voice sets for controllers and pilots appear in PATC's voices menu. But when I click the voice set verification button (in german: "alle stimmen überprüfen") the new ones disappear. After a new start they're there again. Little bit confusing if they're working or not. Didn't have the time yet to verify that in a flight.

By the way: All are checked but "Bob2" is not. What does that mean?

Thanks in advance,
Zacke

[polymerman]

Alvaro,
           Marcel's (MaVe) work is/was his own not ProAtc/x's.
Haven't heard about any new voice sets so he may have stopped work.
Regards,
-Rich